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—– Original Message —–

From:
hdohinfo

To:
Nellie (redacted)

Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:32 PM

Subject: RE: 2nd Attempt: Standard, Abbrev, COLB, verification

 

Aloha Ms. :

 

We do not understand your repeated requests for a blank copy of the standard birth certificate when we have already fulfilled that request.

 

Perhaps it would help us to understand you better if you could cite the particular Hawai`i law you say we are violating.

 

Thank you.

 

Hawaii Department of Health

Public Information Office staff

 
 

Send mail to:

State Department of Health

Office of Health Status Monitoring

Issuance/Vital Statistics Section/UIPA Request

Honolulu, HI 97801

hdohinfo@doh.hawaii.gov

 

 

 

 

 


From: Nellie (redacted)
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:08 PM
To: hdohinfo
Subject: Re: 2nd Attempt: Standard, Abbrev, COLB, verification

 

If that is all that is on your birth certificate then you are in violation of Hawaii law. Even Dr. Conspiracy at obamaconspiracy.com has said that what you sent cannot be the entire birth certificate. I am asking you for the entire body of information that hospitals are required to report when they submit an electronic birth record or that a person is required to submit when they report an unattended birth. I am not asking for what is sent to a person when they request a certified or non-certified copy. I am asking for the blank form for an actual birth certificate – complete with the confidential section which is referenced in your current administrative rules and which is required by state law.

—– Original Message —–

From:
hdohinfo

To: (redacted)

Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:59 PM

Subject: FW: 2nd Attempt: Standard, Abbrev, COLB, verification

 

Aloha Ms. :

 

Blank copies of the standard birth certificate and late certificate of birth were sent to you on January 18th—see email below.

 

Hawaii Department of Health

Public Information Office staff

 
 

Send mail to:

State Department of Health

Office of Health Status Monitoring

Issuance/Vital Statistics Section/UIPA Request

Honolulu, HI 97801

hdohinfo@doh.hawaii.gov

 


From: Okubo, Janice S.
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:55 PM
To: Nellie
Subject: RE: 2nd Attempt: Standard, Abbrev, COLB, verification

 

Aloha Ms. ,

Please see the attachments in response to your requests.  The standard birth certificate and late certificate of birth are attached.  Please see below for additional information.

Janice Okubo
Hawaii State Department of Health


From: Nellie
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 3:46 PM
To: Okubo, Janice S.
Subject: Re: 2nd Attempt: Standard, Abbrev, COLB, verification

 

 

Since you don’t have anything that defines a standard birth certificate, please show me a blank, voided copy of the form for a standard birth certificate, including the confidential portion referred to in Chapter 8b 2.4(B)(d), the place for signatures as referenced in Chapter 8, section 1, Chapter 8a, Section B (2)(b), and Chapter 8a, 4(b)(6).

 

A redacted birth certificate is attached.

 
 

Since you don’t have a definition for a Certificate of Live Birth, I request you to send a blank voided copy of a Certificate of Live Birth.

 

A redacted birth certificate is attached.

 
 

I also request a blank voided copy of a Certification of Live Birth.

 

A redacted birth certificate is attached.  Earlier versions of this form cannot be produced by the department and the department does not maintain a copy of earlier vital records forms.

 
 

I request to see a blank voided copy of a verification of a birth certificate.

 

A verification of a birth certificate is the certificate itself.  The blank voided copy of a birth certificate is attached.  When someone requests a verification of a birth certificate, they follow the same procedures as they would to request a birth certificate.  If the birth record is found, a certified copy is sent to the individual.  If the birth record is not found, a letter is sent to the requestor saying that no record could be found.  Regardless of whether a record is found, the $10 prepaid fee is retained for the cost of the record search.

 
 

This form for an abbreviated copy of a birth certificate has the “prima facie” statement on it. Please send a blank voided copy of both the standard copy and abbreviated copy form used when a certificate no longer qualifies as prima facie evidence – such as amended or delayed birth certificates.

 

A redacted birth certificate is attached. There are no other records responsive to your request.

 
 

I request to see a blank voided copy of a “Late” or “Delayed” birth certificate.

 

A blank voided copy of a late birth certificate is attached.  In order to qualify for a late birth certificate the birth must have occurred a minimum of 12 months prior.

 
 

Thank you.

Nellie

 

 

—– Original Message —–

From:
Okubo, Janice S.

To: Nellie

Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:04 PM

Subject: RE: 2nd Attempt: Standard, Abbrev, COLB, verification

 

Aloha Ms. ,

 

I have confirmed with our vital records office that there are no documents that provide the definitions you are requesting.  I have attached a blank, voided copy of the form for a Hawaii birth certificate which includes what information may be included, however not all information on the certificate is required.  For example, if a child does not have an identified father, there would be no father’s name, race, or state/country of birth.


From: Nellie
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 3:34 PM
To: Okubo, Janice S.
Subject: 2nd Attempt: Standard, Abbrev, COLB, verification

 

 
 

—– Original Message —–

From:
Nellie

To:
Okubo, Janice S.

Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 6:02 PM

Subject: UIPA Request for Forms

 

12-21-09

 
 

Aloha, Ms. Okubo

 
 

“Public Health Regulations, Chapter 8b, 2.4 B (2), (c) and (d) give the director of the DOH the discretion to decide what is to be contained on abbreviated copies, but abbreviated copies may only be issued when ALL the information required on the abbreviated form is included on a person’s original birth certificate on file. Pursuant to UIPA, I request either the department documents which describe what information is required to be included on an abbreviated copy of a birth certificate OR a blank, voided copy of the form for an abbreviated birth certificate.

 
 

I also request any documents defining  “standard birth certificate”, “abbreviated copy of a birth certificate”, “Certificate of Live Birth”, and  “Certification of Live Birth” as well as listing the the required information for each.

 
 

I also request any documents clarifying the difference between a verification and a Certification of Live Birth.

 
 

I prefer to receive these as electronic copies, e-mailed to (redacted)

 
 

As always, I will continue sending this request until I receive confirmation that you have received it.

 
 

Thank you.

Nellie

 

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2 Comments

  1. allahallahoxenfree
    Posted March 9, 2010 at 1:58 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Don’t EVER give up.

    • Posted March 9, 2010 at 2:24 pm | Permalink | Reply

      If they shut me down there will be a dozen people who could take my place. These people need to learn that the only way you can shut up the people is by giving them justice. We need to let Fukino know her name and story is in the Bible…

      Luke 18:1-6
      Then Jesus told his disciples a parable to show them that they should always pray and not give up. He said: “In a certain town there was a judge who neither feared God nor cared about men.

      And there was a widow in that town who kept coming to him with the plea, ‘Grant me justice against my adversary.’

      For some time he refused. But finally he said to himself, ‘Even though I don’t fear God or care about men, yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will see that she gets justice, so that she won’t eventually wear me out with her coming!'”

      And the Lord said, “Listen to what the unjust judge says. ..”

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