Hutch News E-mail

From: Nellie (redacted)
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 10:39 PM
Subject: Editorial Re: Rescinding Endorsement for Mann


Dear Editor:


I am requesting a correction to the editorial in which the Hutch News rescinded its endorsement for Mann for Congress because he is a “birther”.


The editorial almost entirely relies on an alleged fact that is totally inaccurate. Hawaii’s Secretary of State has never come forward with Obama’s birth certificate. That is just plain factually incorrect, and in accordance with journalistic ethics it should be corrected.


The fact of the matter is that nobody in Hawaii has released any of Obama’s documents (even though at this point Hawaii law REQUIRES them to release the documentation upon request) because they say they can’t release it without Obama’s consent.


And they have never confirmed the authenticity of the Factcheck COLB. In fact, Janice Okubo said in an e-mail to me that Hawaii law forbids her from even telling LAW ENFORCEMENT whether the Factcheck COLB is authentic, or a forgery. She says she cannot directly state anything that would reveal what is on a genuine BC.


What the Hawaii DOH HAS INDIRECTLYconfirmed via their official, legal responses to UIPA requests is that Obama’s birth certificate was amended sometime in 2006 when Obama was considering a 2008 run for the presidency (an amendment which must be noted on any genuine COLB but isn’t noted on Factcheck), AND that the certificate number and “date filed” on the Factcheck COLB are incompatible so that one or the other (or both) had to have been altered on the Factcheck COLB. IOW, The HDOH has indirectly confirmed that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery.


Furthermore, Hawaii law (HRS 338-17) says that an amended birth certificate is not prima facie evidence. The probative value of an amended BC is determined when it is presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body. Until that happens the amended BC has no more legal weight than Monopoly money. Even if Nancy Pelosi or anybody within the DNC or Hawaii Democratic Party had ASKED to see Obama’s documents (which the HDOH confirms none of them ever has), they could not legally determine his birth facts because they are not administrative or judicial. Likewise, Chiyome Fukino could not make an announcement declaring what Obama’s birth facts are because there is no procedure whereby his birth certificate would be presented to her AS EVIDENCE.


The only way Obama’s birth facts could have been legally determined is if his BC had been presented to a SOS somewhere in the country in the process of placing his name on the ballot (as is allowable without his permission, according to the DOH Administrative Rules which Fukino illegally hid until a year after the election), or if Obama had presented his BC in any of the court cases he fought and the judge had ruled on its probative value.


Obama (aided by the illegal behavior of the Hawaii DOH) prevented either of those things from happening before Jan 20th – the deadline which the 20th Amendment gives for the president-elect to “qualify”. There is no way he could have qualified by then because the facts of his birth have never EVEN TO THIS DAY been legally determined – including his age, place of birth, and parentage (each of which could disqualify him from the presidency). Legally he HAS NO BIRTH FACTS. The process necessary to legally establish the facts of his birth has never happened – regardless of any certifications signed by the DNC or Congress, who are legislative rather than judicial or administrative and thus cannot fulfill the requirements of Hawaii law (which must be honored by the federal government, according to the Full Faith and Credit Clause of Article IV of the US Constitution).


Obama can not have qualified by January 20, 2009 because even his age was not legally determined by then (nor has it been legally determined YET). THAT is a fact.


The 20th Amendment says that if a president-elect “fails to qualify” by Jan 20th the vice-president-elect is to act as president until a president qualifies. Obama is Constitutionally disqualified from acting as president and having the presidential powers – regardless of whether he is the president, has been certified as the electoral winner by Congress, or has taken the oath of office. None of those things overrides the actual requirement of the 20th Amendment. 


That also is a fact.


I’ve got full documentation for these things on my blog at .


I am requesting a correction of your statement that the Hawaii SOS has come forward with Obama’s birth certificate, which is factually incorrect. Even if she had, it would have no more legal value than Monopoly money – which is a point that the public also has a right to know. Unless you would like to print a follow-up article including the information above, I also ask you to print this letter.


I respectfully ask you to withhold my name, location, and phone number because I have received threats of rape on my blog from someone claiming to be in northern Kansas after I began posting on your online site. Please contact me to notify me of what you intend to print before printing. I would appreciate a response either way, telling me what actions you plan to take as a result of this new information brought to your attention.


Thank you.



Nellie (redacted)

(contact info redacted)


  1. {^_^}
    Posted August 31, 2010 at 6:39 pm | Permalink | Reply

    good work

    keep up the pressure

    there’s always justice in the end

    it may not be until the end that justice comes in this case

    but justice will come

    nobody gets away with anything in the end

    it’s either under the blood or it’s judged

    remember that and it will relieve pressure and angst

    justice is sure

    mercy has to be accepted by repentance

  2. cynkading
    Posted September 1, 2010 at 4:29 pm | Permalink | Reply

    This is fascinating stuff. Thank you for your desire to seek the truth and your persistence to spread the truth.

    • Posted September 2, 2010 at 1:04 am | Permalink | Reply

      Truth matters. If we ever get so cynical that it doesn’t, we’re already dead as a people. It’s worth holding onto and fighting for.

    • igaveup
      Posted September 2, 2010 at 7:26 pm | Permalink | Reply

      hey cynkading, how’s stuff over at troy’s?

      • cynkading
        Posted September 4, 2010 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

        Things are pretty good……Hope you are doing good and we miss you over at Heyokapatriots. Come visit sometime. 🙂

  3. tdr
    Posted September 2, 2010 at 3:33 am | Permalink | Reply


    You should really get everything together that you have written and mail it off to John Culberson, Pamela Geller, and Micheal Savage. You have to come out and let someone know what is going on.

    As you know micheal Savage was banned in britain. He stated that John Culberson, without any request from Savage, is working to lift the ban. He has been at it for over a year. Also, Pamela has been on the bc issue in the past and she seems to know how to bring these issues to the forefront. The other guy you can contact is Steve Cooper at conservative monster. He is an ex NY cop and he is definitely into the BC issue. He may want you information. Anyway, you need to get out there and get some help. Otherwise it will really get to you.

    You also need to start a legal fund to pursue legal action if this continues.

    • Posted September 2, 2010 at 1:50 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for the suggestions. I did try to contact Michael Savage but wasn’t even able to find an e-mail address that worked. If you know of a way for me to contact him I will. And I’ll see what I can do about contacting the others also.

      The difficulty is getting anybody’s attention. I have no credentials, just documents. The blog setting is nice because I can give an overview and if that interests somebody they can click on the links to see what support there is for what I’ve said. Sometimes people are blown away by the sheer size of the information available so if they can take it in pieces it’s less overwhelming. And there are so many angles that people might be most interested in. There’s the legal status issue (that Obama’s birth facts have never been legally determined) and there’s also the corruption issue (unbelievable how the system has covered for all the lies).

      The Post & Email ( ) has a legal fund for use in both researching and potentially pursuing a lawsuit if it seems wise. The difficulty is that lawsuits involving Hawaii’s laws (which are being broken at every turn) would stay with a Hawaii judge, and the chances of finding anybody in that state government who would follow the laws is practically non-existent. I say that after having dealt with a lot of people in Hawaii government. At this point I suspect that Homeland Security is telling Hawaii what they can and can’t do – all in secret fashion, of course, because “national security” is (supposedly) at risk if the laws are actually followed.

      Regarding this situation with Hutch News, there’s another limitation. It has to be a prosecuting attorney who brings charges – as they did with Blagojevich. Same with forgery, perjury, obstruction of justice, etc.

      When I started out researching this subject, I just wanted answers for my own peace of mind. What I found was that the government, media, and law enforcement systems are all so corrupt that there are actually no checks and balances left intact. Civil lawsuits are all subject to the “standing” issue (and as long as the actions of government screw us all equally nobody has standing), and criminal lawsuits have to be brought by government officials – who have incentives to coddle the political players who put them there.

      At this point, the Arizona enforcement law is a microcosm of the entire law enforcement system: the people who are authorized to enforce the laws refuse to do so because it isn’t politically expedient, and they are making sure nobody else can enforce the laws either.

      That same kind of clogging is happening in government and media as well. Both entities know that as long as law enforcement is beyond our reach to effect, they can do whatever they darn well please. That’s how you can get the Passport Office (probably) making up a story that most of 125 million passport records were destroyed in 1984 without leaving any of the necessary paper trail in the retention schedules. A memo claiming that was included in an affidavit. There is no fear of justice within the government because they know their pals in law enforcement will cover their behinds. That’s true at the federal, state, and local levels of government.

      Same thing with media. There is an assumption that “free speech” means the press can say anything they want, without legal consequence. But libel and truth-in-labeling laws are constitutional; we don’t have the right to be free of consequences when we say what we know is false. Not when our lies victimize somebody else.

      And in this case, the lies of the media in general have victimized the entire American public, whose federal functions have been compromised, as well as individuals who have been denied justice as a direct result of the lies. I believe it was John Hemenway who was going to be fined a lot of money for a “frivolous lawsuit” because federal appeals judge Robertson said that the case had already been “Twittered”. And I believe Judge Carter also referred to media reports about Obama’s online COLB and Fukino’s statements. If cases are going to be judged on the basis of media reports which could all be lies, then those lies are victimizing actual people just as surely as if they were lies under oath in the courtroom.

      I know that my Congress-critters (and others as well) specifically referred to the eligibility issue (and electoral vote certification) as being settled by the Factcheck COLB and Fukino’s silence regarding it being a forgery. Media lies about this issue have already impacted – and continue to impact – the specific functions of Congress.

      All 3 branches of federal government have already been severely impacted by media lies, and by HDOH concealment of laws and of relevant facts. That is exactly what 18 U.S.C. 1001 intends to deal with. I don’t see any exemption for the press on this matter, and the law hasn’t been declared an unconstitutional violation of free speech rights. I suppose the only way to find out whether the media can deliberately lie about federal issues with legal impunity can only be known if a prosecuting attorney files charges and the courts rule that the press is exempt.

    • Posted September 2, 2010 at 2:32 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I am not in Culberson’s district so I can’t contact him via his website. I could look for a snail mail address maybe, or a phone number, and read what I intended to send.

    • Posted September 2, 2010 at 4:48 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I e-mailed Geller and Cooper. I’m faxing Culberson and Darrell Issa. I can’t find any contact info for Michael Savage except his call-in number and I don’t believe he allows people to pimp their blog or website via the phone so I just don’t know any way to let him know what I’ve got. It’s too much to try to say in a phone call, and nobody would believe it without the documentation anyway.

      • tdr
        Posted September 2, 2010 at 7:43 pm | Permalink


  4. cynkading
    Posted September 4, 2010 at 2:50 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I am happy to have read where you have sent your info to people who can quite possibly start a snowball effect and others can be shown the truth through all your good investigative efforts.

    I also believe that God is allowing all of this to happen to our country to show us how far we have strayed from him. If you notice Obama is like teflon. Most people cannot get by with all of this corruption and destruction. Yes, the devil is using him for sure. I admire your desire to enlighten all of us and I also believe the truth will prevail. We know how the story ends.

    I find great peace knowing that God has our backs, and at the same time it is just so painful watching everything go up in flames. It is like watching your house burn down in front of you and all you have is one lonely bucket of water. You know that the bucket of water will not douse the fire but you also know that you will throw that bucket of water on the fire in hopes that it might extinguish it. God is allowing all of this to happen to break us down and to get his people to repent and trust in him once again. America has too many idols that have taken his place.

    The current times that we are living totally mirrors the book of Isaiah where the the children of Israel were enslaved to the Egyptian pharaoh. History does repeat itself when the same mistakes are made.

    John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of food cheer; I have overcome the world.

    • cynkading
      Posted September 4, 2010 at 2:52 pm | Permalink | Reply

      sorry about the typo food cheer = good cheer. 🙂

    • Posted September 7, 2010 at 5:47 pm | Permalink | Reply

      That description of the house burning down actually fits one of the methods of torture that Nero inflicted upon the early Christians. He set a man on fire and let his wife have only a spoon with holes in it to try to use to put out the fire.

      I don’t know what time it is. I don’t know if it’s the time when evil will triumph on earth, requiring great patience on the part of the saints. I don’t know if it’s time when the mark of the beast will be required for buying and selling, and my time to be martyred or to watch my family being martyred will be here.

      The full end we do know. Those who hold fast to the end will win eternally regardless of what we have to endure in this life. The truth will win, in eternity if not in time.

      The outcomes are in God’s hands. We have only to be faithful in what we’ve been given and let Him take care of the results. It does help to know that the same God who gave those husbands, wives, and children in Nero’s day the strength to endure unbelievable suffering will help me, my family, and all who depend on Him to endure whatever comes.

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