DNC and HDP Did Not Request Obama Records

DNC and HDP Did Not Request Obama Records

HDOH Confirms DNC & HDP Leadership Did Not Request Obama’s Records

From: Nellie
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:03 AM
To: Okubo, Janice S.
Subject: UIPA Request – HDP, DNC, Abercrombie UIPA’s
1-26-10

Aloha.

Pursuant to UIPA I request an electronic copy of any and all UIPA requests from Joseph Sandler, Brian Schatz, William H. Gilardy, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, Neil Abercrombie, Daniel Inouye, Senator Akaka, Marsha Joyner, or anyone representing the Hawaii Democratic Party or the Democratic National Committee.

Thank you.
Nellie
________________________________________—– Original Message —–
From: Okubo, Janice S.
To: Nellie
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: UIPA Request – HDP, DNC, Abercrombie UIPA’s

Aloha Ms. (redacted),

In order for the department to respond to your request, we require some additional information.

Please provide a specific timeframe for the records you are requesting.

Are the records you are requesting specific to a certain area or part of the department?

What was the subject of the UIPA requests you are referring to?

Please provide names for the people referred to as “anyone”.

We will do our best to provide you with the records you are requesting once we receive the information needed.
Janice Okubo
Hawaii State Department of Health
________________________________________
From: Nellie
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:52 AM
To: Okubo, Janice S.
Subject: Re: UIPA Request – HDP, DNC, Abercrombie UIPA’s

I request copies of UIPA requests dating from January of 2008 until now regarding President Obama’s vital records or Hawaii law or administrative rules, requested by Joseph Sandler, Brian Schatz, William H. Gilardy, Nancy Pelosi, Alice Travis Germond, Howard Dean, Neil Abercrombie, Daniel Inouye, Senator Akaka, Marsha Joyner, or Andy Martin.

Thank you.
Nellie

—– Original Message —–
From: hdohinfo
To: Nellie
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:46 PM
Subject: UIPA Request – HDP, DNC, Abercrombie UIPA’s

Aloha Ms. (redacted),

The department has no records responsive to your request.

Hawaii Department of Health
Public Information Office staff

Send mail to:
State Department of Health
Office of Health Status Monitoring
Issuance/Vital Statistics Section/UIPA Request
Honolulu, HI 97801
hdohinfo@doh.hawaii.gov

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15 Comments

  1. Citizen Concerned
    Posted September 15, 2010 at 3:52 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Butter,

    Neither the HDP or the DNC would have submitted a UIPA request for Obama’s records; they had a direct and tangible interest in obtaining a verification letter in accordance with HRS 338-18 (g). I submitted a UIPA request to the HDoH for the records of all financial transactions that occurred between HDoH and the HDP and the DNC. The time span covered: February 4, 2007 and February 4, 2010.

    I received the following response:

    Subject: RE: UIPA Request Financial Transactions Involving DPH and DNC
    Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:47:35 -1000
    From: janice.okubo@doh.hawaii.gov
    To:
    CC: hdohinfo@doh.hawaii.gov

    Aloha,

    State law prohibits the DOH from disclosing any vital statistics records or data incidental to those records unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record. We are therefore unable to provide any documents that are responsive to your request for information relating to persons who ordered copies of vital records. In terms of records of payments from the DPH and DNC, there are no records responsive to your request.

    Janice Okubo
    Hawaii State Department of Health

    I think this is more definitive proof that neither the DNC or HDP obtained the vertification letter that they had a direct and tangible interest in. The HDoH does not provide such letters free of charge. A financial transaction would have occurred and according to Ms. Okubo there are no records that either party made a financial transaction with the HDoH during the specified three year period.

    My theory is that Tim Adams is telling the truth that it was common knowledge at the Office of Elections that the HDoH was not in possession of a b/c, or at least not in possession of one that would prove Obama was legally qualified.

    I however believe but it was not the HDoH that tipped off the HDP but rather the Office of Elections. A precedent had been established to include the “legally qualified” language in the state party Certificate of Nomination and the Office of Elections accepted the HDP CoN without questioning that the “legally qualified” language had been gutted. It should have been kicked back to the HDP and it was not. Either that or the HDP already knew that Obama was constitutionally ineligible (through Gilhardy perhaps).

    Interestingly the RNC submits a CoN that includes the “legally qualified” language and the HRP signs off on the same document.

    The DNC was just following HRS 11-113 but without verifying O’s creds first. It is possible and more than likely that the HDP tipped them off as well.

    • Posted September 15, 2010 at 4:41 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Excellent! That closes the gap all the way tight. Is there any way I could get a redacted scan of that request and response to link to if I add this information to the post? If it’s OK to e-mail you using the e-mail you registered with I can send you my e-mail address if you’d be OK to send it to me. Let me know what you think. I don’t share e-mail addresses or names with anybody without having express permission first.

      The way I understand it, the HDP had to know something was amiss before they submitted anything to the Elections Office, because they signed their altered certificate at the National Convention rather than about a month afterwards. They did their procedures totally different, and they must have known something at the time they altered their procedures – which was before the Elections Office had anything to do with it.

      I’m not totally sure of this so take it with a grain of salt, but I believe that unless Obama registered to vote in Hawaii the way the Elections Office would be able to check whether he had a BC would be through the electronic verification of records system (EVVE) which Hawaii uses in conjunction with a nationwide database (HI’s involvement being a result of efforts by HI State REgistrar Alvin Onaka, I believe). That database has a system to flag records that are not legally valid. An amended and/or late BC would be legally invalid and should thus have been flagged – although the HDOH claims they have no records on the flagging process (even though I sent them a link to the federal government site which gives the detailed specifications for the national program which HI subscribes to). If the people in the Elections Office checked on the EVVE they would have seen that Obama has no legally valid records, which would explain what Adams said was common knowledge.

      I believe that is the system that the cops who tried to check Obama’s records would have looked in; as I understand it, when the cops tried to check, the system locked them out of that record and alerted the higher-ups that an unauthorized query had been made (funny how a similar system which would have prevented the THREE unauthorized accesses to Obama’s passport record had conveniently been disabled – apparently by somebody higher up in John Brennan’s company – all three times…)

      What’s interesting, that I just noticed yesterday, is that “Terri K” got a response from OIP Director Paul Tsukiyama saying that the HDOH had correctly denied her acces to any and all BC’s they have for Obama, including any additional documentation submitted to support the claims on the BC’s… by virtue of HRS 338-13. He used that citation twice in the letter so it wasn’t just a typo. The HDOH always uses HRS 338-18 as the justification for refusing to disclose records so I looked up HRS 338-13 at http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0013.htm . The difference between that and HRS 338-18 is that 338-13 says that the records release has to comply with HRS 338-16 and 338-17 as well as 338-18. And 338-16 and 338-17 deal with the procedures involving late and amended birth certificates specifically.

      I’m still thinking it through, but it seems odd that Tsukiyama cited 338-13 dealing with late and amended BC’s, when the HDOH itself only cites 338-18, which deals with all records in their office but not late and amended BC’s specifically.

      I had been thinking that Fukino’s coporation offering Tsukiyama a big job right around that time was a reward for his cover, but it looks like maybe it was a buy-off because he knew Obama’s BC is amended and late and actually gave a clue about that in at least this response. Like I said, I’m still sorting it out but it definitely raised my eyebrow when I noticed it.

  2. Citizen Concerned
    Posted September 15, 2010 at 11:33 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I already provided the response I received in my previous post.

    From:
    To: janice.okubo@doh.hawaii.gov
    Subject: UIPA Request Financial Transactions Involving DPH and DNC
    Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 15:40:40 -0800

    Ms. Okubo,

    Pursuant to HRS 92F-12, I hereby request to inspect and copy the following records the DoH is required to maintain per the SoH General Records Schedule that identify the Democratic National Committee, and the Democratic Party of Hawaii and/or their respective authorized representative as a payer between the dates of February 4, 2007 – February 4, 2010.

    3.A.3 OSHM or equivalent Cash receipts (payer, amount, date)
    3.A.4 OSHM or equivalent Sales journal (payer, amount, date)
    3.A.5 OSHM or equivalent Accounts Receivable journal (payer, amount, date) 3.D.6 OHSM or equivalent Journal voucher and supporting documents (payer, amount, date)
    3.D.7 OHSM or equivalent Universal input form (payer, amount, date)
    3.D.8 OSHM or equivalent Agency internal journal entry and supporting documents (payer, amount, date)

    If the record contains information that cannot be disclosed per HRS 92F-13, please redact the confidential information.

    Regards,

    • Posted September 15, 2010 at 11:53 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Thank you so much. I’ll put the request and the response in its own post and link to it. You’ve even got the actual document numbers. Wow. This is excellent work!

      Is there a 3-year retention period for those documents? I know I’ve looked it up before but forgotten.

    • Citizen Concerned
      Posted September 16, 2010 at 1:01 am | Permalink | Reply

      Retention: 3 years if audited, otherwise 6 years for all of the aforementioned items.

      Assume that the DoH has been audited and note that the time period is all inclusive even prior to when Obama declared his candidacy on February 10, 2007.

      • Posted September 16, 2010 at 2:57 am | Permalink

        Yes, I noticed that. Wonderful piece of work. Thank you for sharing it. =)

  3. Roger Sanders
    Posted September 16, 2010 at 5:18 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Obama-Biden and the Missing Severability Clause

    If Obama is removed or resigns then Biden could be also be deemed ineligible because the fraudulent Hawaii’s and Democratic National Party’s certifications documents to place them on the ballot for President and Vice President do not have a severability clause! In other words if a legal document is fraudulent in one respect it is fraudulent in all respects for without a severability provision it is not permissible for an authority to selectively rewrite it by retaining sections that the authority prefers to remain in force, while redacting or dismissing those parts he or she does not like.

    • Posted September 16, 2010 at 5:43 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Interesting. I’ve never thought of that angle before. So are you saying that if the certifications are fraudulent then Biden also would have “failed to qualify” by Jan 20, 2009 as well?

      You know, as I think about it, one of the requirements for being on the ballot in the various states was that there be a valid certificate of nomination. If there was only a perjurious certificate of nomination, that would mean those names couldn’t even legally be on the ballot.

      What happens when it is found out that a vote was actually illegal? Is there precedent regarding that, either at the state or federal level?

  4. Roger
    Posted September 16, 2010 at 5:37 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Obama-Biden and the Missing Severability Clause
    Part 2
    If Obama is removed or resigns then Biden could be also be deemed ineligible because the fraudulent Hawaii’s and Democratic National Party’s certifications documents to place them on the ballot for President and Vice President do not have a severability clause! The knowing purveyors or certifiers of fraud cannot have it both ways. If their favored candidate is found out to be fraudulently presented by the certifiers they cannot be allowed to prevail with their second choice. “Not to worry folks; if we are discovered on the Obama fraud we will still get our guy Biden in as President”.

  5. Citizen Concerned
    Posted September 17, 2010 at 9:55 pm | Permalink | Reply

    So does the Presidency then go to the Speaker of the House? If yes, it might behoove us to finish the job after January 3, 2011 after 112th Congress is sworn in and a new Republican Speaker of the House is elected. With a Republican President, Republican controlled House, and 50/50 split in the Senate we might actually be able to recover from the damage this Adminstration has caused in such a short time.

    The last thing we need is President Pelosi. ew, that is almost as bad as the Usurper-In-Chief and worse in some ways. She actually will place her boot on the neck of those who dissent or deviate from the C-P Strategy.

    Maybe the Speaker only holds the position until new election can be scheduled and America can elect a real bona fide President this time around.

    • Posted September 17, 2010 at 10:14 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I don’t know exactly how it would go. There’s the line of succession to the presidency, but I think we’d get quite a ways down the list before finding somebody who didn’t know about and tolerate the coup that had just taken place, which would arguably be treason, perjury, etc.

      We’re really in uncharted territory. I wish these people hadn’t played “chicken” over the fate of an entire nation.

      • tdr
        Posted October 10, 2010 at 1:57 am | Permalink

        i fing it facinating that there is increased discussions about hillary taking the vp position…hmmm.

      • Posted October 10, 2010 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

        I think they’re inhaling too much of something besides the free air if they think Obama would even be able to get his name on state ballots without there being a major legal battle in just about every state in the union.

  6. Roger
    Posted September 18, 2010 at 11:25 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Many of the elites that should be taking the lead in fixing the big mess they caused should force Obama to resign and go into exile are afraid that there would be hellacious riots on the “black street”. This is very easy to avoid. There are many avenues available to get Biden to join him.

    The constitution does not require that the Speaker of the House, the next in line of succession, be an elected representative. They could hire a manager to run the operations if they wanted to. Usually I am opposed to taking a person’s race into any kind of consideration. But these are very dangerous times for America, thus making this a very urgent, super critical and special case that requires very creative and extraordinary solutions.

    After the Republican’s likely elevation to majority status the House could as a stepping stone appoint to the Speakership a black person who is well respected and who has excellent leadership capabilities; and who can take the very forceful actions needed to fix the economy and the other things Obama and his associates damaged. It does not need to be a Republican. Preferably this person would declare that he or she will not run in the 2012 election; except if there is overwhelming public support for that. This should calm down the hundred or so presidential want-a-be’s currently in the House and Senate.

    There are probably a goodly number of black men and women that could do an excellent job. My most favorite is Thomas Sowell. Obviously he is much much blacker than Obama, but more importantly he is by far the smartest and best common sense oriented person in the world that I am aware of. He is super intelligent and the best practical economist we have. He understands how the government and country needs to work; and the policies needed to restore a great national economy. He will know the best people to bring in to help him. He is also extremely knowledgeable regarding national defense and international relations. National defense is now dangerously in decline.

    Another wonderful outstanding person that I am sure can do a great job is no-nonsense retired General Honore of Katrina fame. He was sen to take charge of the in turmoil relief operations in New Orleans. As most will recall, by the time he was ordered in to take over there was massive confusion and extremely inept management. I love his famous order to reporters – “DON’T GET STUCK ON STUPID””. We could use that hundreds of times a day as most everyone in the administration is super glued onto STUPID! “He describes himself as an African-American Creole American mixture that includes French, African, American, Indian and Spanish”. You cannot get any better than that!

    A Sowell as President and Honore as V.P. team, or vice versa, could do wonders for America. With Soule handling the economy and Honore kicking out the legions of incompetent screw-ups and screw offs, and riding herd on the administration departments they will lead our Country in a speedy rebuilding. Regardless of their race these men are both eminently qualified to be President of our United States of America and we all could be very proud to have them as our leaders.

  7. Roger
    Posted September 18, 2010 at 11:35 pm | Permalink | Reply

    (corrected copy (minor grammatical mistakes))

    Many of the elites that should be taking the lead in fixing the big mess they caused should force Obama to resign and go into exile are afraid that there would be hellacious riots on the “black street”. This is very easy to avoid. There are many avenues available to get Biden to join him.

    The constitution does not require that the Speaker of the House, the next in line of succession, be an elected representative. They could hire a manager to run the operations if they wanted to. Usually I am opposed to taking a person’s race into any kind of consideration. But these are very dangerous times for America, thus making this a very urgent, super critical and special case that requires very creative and extraordinary solutions.

    After the Republican’s likely elevation to majority status the House could as a stepping stone appoint to the Speakership a black person who is well respected and who has excellent leadership capabilities; and who can take the very forceful actions needed to fix the economy and the other things Obama and his associates damaged. It does not need to be a Republican. Preferably this person would declare that he or she will not run in the 2012 election; except if there is overwhelming public support for that. This should calm down the hundred or so presidential want-a-be’s currently in the House and Senate.

    There are probably a goodly number of black men and women that could do an excellent job. My most favorite is Thomas Sowell. Obviously he is much much blacker than Obama, but more importantly he is by far the smartest and best common sense oriented person in the world that I am aware of. He is super intelligent and the best practical economist we have. He understands how the government and country needs to work; and the policies needed to restore a great national economy. He will know the best people to bring in to help him. He is also extremely knowledgeable regarding national defense and international relations. National defense is now dangerously in decline.

    Another wonderful outstanding person that I am sure can do a great job is no-nonsense retired General Honore of Katrina fame. He was sen to take charge of the in turmoil relief operations in New Orleans. As most will recall, by the time he was ordered in to take over there was massive confusion and extremely inept management. I love his famous order to reporters – “DON’T GET STUCK ON STUPID””. We could use that hundreds of times a day as most everyone in the administration is super glued onto STUPID! “He describes himself as an African-American Creole American mixture that includes French, African, American, Indian and Spanish”. You cannot get any better than that!

    A Sowell as President and Honore as V.P. team, or vice versa, could do wonders for America. With Soule handling the economy and Honore kicking out the legions of incompetent screw-ups and screw offs, and riding herd on the administration departments they will lead our Country in a speedy rebuilding. Regardless of their race these men are both eminently qualified to be President of our United States of America and we all could be very proud to have them as our leaders.

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