No Electronic Index of Foreign Birth

No Electronic Index of Foreign Births


—– Original Message —–


To: Nellie

Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:56 PM

Subject: RE: UIPA Request -Foreign Birth Index 1982 until now


Aloha Ms. (redacted):


There are no records responsive to your request.


Hawaii Department of Health

Public Information Office staff


Send mail to:

State Department of Health

Office of Health Status Monitoring

Issuance/Vital Statistics Section/UIPA Request

Honolulu, HI 97801



From: Nellie (redacted)
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:11 AM
To: hdohinfo
Subject: Fw: UIPA Request -Foreign Birth Index 1982 until now






Pursuant to UIPA, I request an electronic copy of the index for certificates of foreign birth (VDR-10, which is to be retained permanently) from the year 1982 until now, with all non-discloseable parts redacted.


Thank you!



  1. Charlene
    Posted March 4, 2011 at 5:54 pm | Permalink | Reply

    OH Geez! Now I am confused again! Does this mean he did not ammend a BC that was from a foreign country?

    I am sure this is a silly question, but has anyone checked with Washington State? Kanasas? Mars!?!?!

    • Posted March 4, 2011 at 7:11 pm | Permalink | Reply

      At this point there’s no such thing as a silly question, and it is confusing because the HDOH wants it to be confusing. Certificates of Foreign Birth are created when somebody adopts a foreign-born child. I would be willing to bet that somebody in Hawaii has adopted a foreign-born child sometime between 1982 and today. My money says the HDOH is lying about there being no index of foreign births.

      And as I will soon post about (just finishing up on it now), if Abercrombie really did find a “recording of Obama’s birth” actually written down in the State Archives, as he told Star Advertiser columnist Richard Borreca who reported it in a column on Jan 18th, it would have to be either a 75-year-old Certificate of Hawaiian Birth or a certificate of foreign birth, according to the HDOH retention schedules. All their other records are either destroyed after the retention period runs out or stored permanently at the Vital Records Office.

      Either Abercrombie is lying, or the HDOH lied in their response to me. Or Obama is really 75 years old. lol

      The confusion comes in trying to figure out who all is lying. It is obvious that SOMEBODY is, and that should have resulted in a legal investigation a long, long time ago. The fact that it hasn’t, even now, tells us that we have an utter failure of the rule of law.

      Washington State doesn’t have a record of Obama’s birth. According to HDOH UIPA responses confirming Obama’s BC amendment and Gov Abercrombie’s statements, neither does Hawaii have a legally valid record of his birth. If Obama has ever had to use a legally-valid birth certificate in his life, what he used was not from either of those 2 places.

      The question is: If not those places, then where? What location DOES he have a legally valid birth certificate from, if not Hawaii or Washington State? There are a lot of worried government critters who know the answer to that question, and they are fighting tooth and claw to make it appear that the rest of us are crazy for thinking it even matters.

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