Hawaii Desperately Chasing Escaped Horse

Hawaii government officials are desperately trying to give Obama an excuse for not disclosing his long-form birth certificate for the past 2+ years. What they accomplished, instead, is to prove in full view of everyone that they are willing to violate their laws in order to try to silence the growing questions about what he is really hiding and why. (For readability I have to have this as a PDF; sorry for the extra click).

HDOH Refusal to Issue Certified Copies of Long


  1. Carol Fryer
    Posted April 15, 2011 at 7:00 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I read today that he was concerned that the birther issue would hurt the GOP. Thats quite a laugh. Hes concerned. Then just show the birth certificate stupid. Besides that, who on earth told him the GOP is even concerned about this issue. They try to make anyone who questions this look nuts. Is he trying to make them look like they are listening either. They arent.Dumb and dumber.

    • Posted April 15, 2011 at 7:06 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Did you read Doug Hagmann’s analysis of Obama’s behavior in the Stephanopoulos (sp?) interview? That analysis is at http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35531

      I doubt whether they are fooling anybody. The more they try to hide or dodge the issue, the more obvious it becomes that they are hiding and dodging, and it only makes the question more compelling.

      • SapphireSunday
        Posted April 16, 2011 at 11:11 pm | Permalink

        When I saw that clip the first time, I thought the same thing. When I saw it the second time, I watched more closely and noted everything Hagmann pointed out: The blinks, the laugh, using the third person. He was also very stiff; a body language expert would have something to say about those pointing index fingers, too.

        Great analysis and great post, butterdezillion.

  2. neconservative
    Posted April 15, 2011 at 7:45 pm | Permalink | Reply

    So, we need some Hawaiian-born folks to request their original BCs, be denied, then sue Hawaii to bust this out in the open.

    • Posted April 15, 2011 at 8:00 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Exactly. And Hawaii law says that the state has to pay court costs when a person is wrongly denied access to records.

      Hawaii is trying to say they can’t afford to pay the personnel needed to make photocopies of long-forms, but they sure as heck can’t afford to pay for lawsuits from them refusing to do what they are in business specifically to do. This could get quite expensive for them if they keep up at this rate.

      Of course, any Hawaii judge might just blow off the whole thing, but if so that just means that the whole world can know that Hawaii is willing to throw out their entire Open Records Law/system as well as their Vital Records Laws, in order to cover for Obama. The more extreme they become in covering for Obama, the more vindication for people like myself, who have said that the rule of law has been totally subverted for Obama’s sake – making this an issue of government integrity and the rule of law, not really about Obama at all.

      So far nobody – not even Trump – has focused on that part, on the laws and rules broken to cover for Obama. That is what will keep this from being the political albatross of a so-called racist “witch-hunt” against Obama personally. When people see the degree of lawlessness in all the government agencies, they will realize this is far more important than just one man’s records.

      How like Obama and his government buddies though, to trample the rights of innocent American citizens in order to cover his own lawlessness.

      • Posted April 16, 2011 at 4:17 am | Permalink

        This is simply ridiculous. My understanding is the same as yours, they can and must photocopy a bc upon receiving a qualifying request.

        If it is expensive to make those copies, the requester is charged and pays for the ‘personnel time.’

      • Posted April 16, 2011 at 4:32 am | Permalink

        Exactly. It is a blatant attempt to cover Obama’s you-know-what.

      • Posted April 16, 2011 at 5:47 am | Permalink

        Trump says he paid $38 for his copy from NY.=)

        Surely THAT much $$ would cover the expense IF there is actually one to copy in Hawaii.

        *nudges Abercrombie*

      • Posted April 16, 2011 at 6:11 am | Permalink

        I’d be more than happy to make a photocopy for $38. lol

  3. Posted April 15, 2011 at 8:22 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Get a free scirbd account and then you can embed the PDF’s right on your page. http://www.scribd.com/scribd101

    • Posted April 15, 2011 at 8:28 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Thanks. I never thought of that. Scribd always seems kind of slow for me. Of course, my computer is a whole ‘nother story. lol.

      • SapphireSunday
        Posted April 16, 2011 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

        I like your method better, butterdezillion. Scribd is very slow and annoyingly jumps all over the place, too.

  4. kbp
    Posted April 18, 2011 at 3:14 am | Permalink | Reply

    butterdezillion or rachel (not sure if you are the same!),

    Can you contact me at my email address submitted? I have a question regarding if or how other states may request Hawaii to confirm someone is eligible before placement on a ballot.

    Thanks in advance!

  5. Posted April 25, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Obama would not be able to get to his original, initial certificate of live birth if it was…

    … sealed by an adoption!

    Was his original, initial certificate of birth sealed by adoption… either the adoption by Indonesian citizen Lolo Soetoro, or the adoption by Indians Hartford and Mary Black Eagle?

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