Be Careful What You Say, Joan Wagnon

At it says of KS Dem Party Chair Joan Wagnon :

“But Kansas Democratic Party Chairwoman Joan Wagnon called the delay “lunacy.”

“This is absurd and insulting,” she said. “This issue has been resolved — there is no issue.” ”

Joan, we’ve got proof that you received a letter from Attorney Larry Klayman informing you of the legal facts. Anything you say from here on out could incriminate you legally.

Watch your step.


  1. Slick Sleeves
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 5:17 am | Permalink | Reply

    1.) Are you aware that Post and Email (9/14/2012) is reporting that person in Kansas demanding Obama present evidence of eligibility HAS DROPPED THE CASE ??? , &

    2.) On 9/14/2012 WND is reporting that Obama just tweeted: “I was born to a SINGLE mother”. Also, he recently used those same words in a recent speech — per article.

    This admission could explain many, many loose ends of this situation. We now have a possible hint of what triggered B.C. AMENDMENT — “original” B.C. probably did not list Father info ???

    • Posted September 15, 2012 at 9:23 am | Permalink | Reply

      Anything to do with paternity would result in a new BC being created rather than the original being amended. So an unreported father wouldn’t explain any early amendment. And I doubt that there’s any way to add a father’s name 45 years after the birth, when the father and mother have both been dead for years. That has to be done by acknowledgment of paternity or a court determination and I don’t know if there would be a fee associated with that either. I’d have to do some more checking to be sure, which I don’t have time to do right now, but I don’t think that would explain what we’re seeing with the non-valid record and the need to give Obama Stig Waidelich’s BC# and shift all these other BC#’s around, since a father’s name is not required and would not thus keep Obama from having a completed BC in time to get a BC assigned to him in 1961.

  2. multisigma
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 5:44 am | Permalink | Reply

    Hope this is not considered off-topic for the post:
    There has been much conjecture about how BO got a SSN with a Connecticut prefix, and it could very well be a critical issue since it would involve a fairly serious felony crime if proven to have been intentional fraud.
    However even among concerned conservatives there is not much more than speculation available, since it is difficult to imagine circumstances that would give him the number of a dead man from somewhere that neither he nor his family had ever been, and issued at a time in his teen years that would not have been associated with a major life event. Even well-paid TV pundits and supposedly fastidious fact-checkers seem uncertain how to respond. So, what possible explanation could there be?
    Finally, one researcher hazards a guess, and it makes sense: since Hawaii is (and long has been) a corrupt state with lots of international criminals operating on the streets, if a young man seeking employment at, say, a Baskin-Robbins ice cream store were to need a SSN because his birth certificate was sufficiently screwed up to prevent him from getting one in the normal way, then he might – with the help of someone street smart, like Uncle Frank Davis – pick up an illegal one from a criminal source in much the same way that illegal immigrants do on the mainland. And it could be from just about anywhere.

    • Posted September 15, 2012 at 9:36 am | Permalink | Reply

      Since there’s all this BC# juggling required to give Obama an authentic-looking (superficially anyway; it’s anomalous given both numbering systems described) 1961 BC#, it’s reasonable to suppose that he must not have had one given in 1961, or at least within 37 days of his birth. If that is the case, then he NEVER had a legally valid HI BC and he had to have been using a DIFFERENT BC any time he needed documentation. That is one of the reasons that the HHS inspector general’s report (found at ) says that if there is something questionable on any vital records or citizenship document it calls for an audit of ALL the identity and citizenship documentation – since breeder documents are so often used to get fraudulent but authentic records so even the authenticity of a given record doesn’t necessarily mean it’s not also fraudulent.

      Obama is the textbook scenario to illustrate why this is important. EVERY document for him has some kind of fraud associated with it. SSN, draft registration form, non-valid BC covered up by 2 forgeries (COLB and long-form), and his Passport record was breached 3 times and the guy whose company oversaw the breaches was rewarded afterwards with an appointment as National Security Chief. The guy is a textbook illustration of massive document and identity fraud.

    • Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I got the info from another blogger I know…

      It demonstrates that it is even logical to harbor some doubt that Obama was even in Hawaii at all in the summer of 1980 thus making it impossible for him to be able to be able to apply for and get a Social Security # while in Hawaii because IF what I have seen his college room mate is quoted as saying is true….

      It appears that Obama was in California at Occidental at the time he was allegedly working at Baskin Robbins and allegedly applying for his SS# in Hawaii.
      “Thummalapally lived with Obama the summer of 1980. The two ran together daily, three miles in the early morning, often chatting about their dreams. Thummalapally wanted to start a business back home; Obama talked about helping people.”

      “So Obama spent the summer of 1980 in LA – not Hawaii!” – hat tip to bluecat6

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