Scan of a Real Seal v Obama Forgery Seal

Scan of a Real Seal

Guthrie Seal v L Seal

The first link compares a scan of a real seal to the White House BC PDF, which is supposedly made directly from a scan.

The 2nd link compares a photo the registrar’s  real Hawaii seal to Savannah Guthrie’s photo of the seal on Obama’s forged long-form.


  1. Charitas
    Posted January 7, 2013 at 4:24 am | Permalink | Reply

    Hello Butter,

    Thank you for again reminding us of the raised seal requirement without which there is no certificate but just a mere document (forged or real doesn’t matter). Mere documents certify nothing.
    Some states and countries issue birth certificates that are only ink stamped with a medallion (no raised seal), we know from other genuine Hawaii examples that raised seals have been and are still used. Without that raised seal on his “document” POTUS doesn’t qualify for a passport or social security benefits; obviously he shouldn’t qualify for the office POTUS.

    It is significant that both documents tendered (short and long form) lack a visible seal on those documents issued on behalf of POTUS and presumably with his approval. This shows poor workmanship from that Harvard Law school graduate.

  2. sharon keller
    Posted January 8, 2013 at 12:04 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Here’s a whole lot certified copies of birth certificates. Some have seals, but many don’t. Wouldn’t you need to compare it to another from Hi?

    • Posted January 8, 2013 at 2:34 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Good point, and I’m uploading another PDF onto this post to address that as well.

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