Mike Evans says he spoke to Neil Abercrombie
From the Jan 20, 2011 broadcast of “Austin’s Morning News” AKA “Mark, Ed, and Sgt. Sam Show”, at 590KLBJ.com. Starting at 7:45 at http://media.590klbj.com/Podcasts/133/01-20-11-_Hour_2.mp3 ,
Mike Evans: This is a uh, not a Hollywood nugget but is is so important I had to bring it to the table. Former United States Congressman from Hawaii, Neil Abercrombie, has been a friend of mine for decades. When I spent time with Neil during the Obama inauguration in Washington, DC, uh, Neil told me that he was gonna run for governor of Hawaii. Neil also told me that when he was in college in Hawaii he was a friend of Obama’s dad. And he remembered Barach – he called him Barry – when he was a kid. He’s actually a very good friend of the President. Neil promised that when he became governor he was gonna cut through all the red tape and gonna get Obama’s birth certificate and once and for all end this stupid controversy.
Announcer: Uh-huh.
Evans: Ye, Yesterday I talked to Neil. Said that he searched everywhere using all of his power as governor, looking at Kapiolani Women and Children’s Hospital and Queens Medical Center, where children were born back in that day. And he said, “Mike, there is no Barack Obama cer, birth certificate.”
Announcer: He’s a foreigner! We knew it from the start!
Announcer #2: Well, I thought, I thought the holder of the certificate said it was locked up and she had seen it.
Evans: Well, the governor w, demanded to see it, went to the hospital, sent all of his people, a search warrant, and he could not get it. Uh, there, he’s really good friends to the President but he says, he thinks this could cause some problems during re-election
Announcer: W
Announcer 2: (inaudible)
Announcer: Yeah, that’s why he launched the search. He believes it will harm his re-election effort.
Evans: Yeah. Well, I, but he’s a friend of Barack
Announcer: I know.
Announcer 2: Yes.
Announcer: Hey I think in his h, heart and mind he said, “I’m gonna get this, bring this to a close. We’re gonna…”
Evans: Well, that’s
Announcer: “….fix this.”
Evans: And that’s exactly true, I mean
Announcer: Yeah.
Evans: I man, I’ve known Neil for long (chuckles) long time and he
Announcer: What’s
Evans: really, he’s a left-wing nut. I mean, I love him, but uh, yeah, he was, he was, you’re exactly right. He was hoping this would get rid of this problem and that he would prove that he was born in the United States. Unfortunately it backfired on him.
Announcer: Somebody’s lying.
Evans: Movie news. George Clooney….
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The Abercrombie situation is certainly odd, but I don’t see how anyone, including the governor, could obtain a search warrant for Obama’s hospital birth records. Under the 4th amendment to the Constitution, search warrants can only be issued by presenting a judge with probable cause that the material sought is evidence in a crime. I very much doubt Neil told a judge he was investigating illegal activity involving the circumstances of his buddy Barack’s birth.
I also doubt that he could have gotten a search warrant, but as governor he is the head of every agency and also has the ability to call together committees as necessary without legislative approval, and an investigative committee might have power to subpoena records. As I’ve said in a different place, it could take a long, long time to get any straight, conclusive answers about what he can and can’t do as governor, or what he actually did.
A doctor told me that hospitals don’t even keep copies of the actual birth certificate once the BC is filed with the proper authorities so it’s not unusual that the BC would be missing. The significance of him checking the hospitals is that he felt he had to – presumably because there wasn’t anything at the Vital Records Office. Which is also why the “investigation” checked the State Archives. (And the Star Advertiser reporter put in a parenthetical statement that Abercrombie said there was something in the STATE ARCHIVE that Abercrombie wanted to use – rather than quoting Abercrombie directly on that part, which is odd in itself but makes clear that Abercrombie was not talking about the archives of the Vital Records Office but the STATE ARCHIVE.)
So as long as Abercrombie actually checked the hospitals the significance of the story remains, even if Abercrombie and/or Evans were mistaken about the “search warrant” term.
The retention schedules for the HDOH allow 2 different kinds of records to be transferred to the State Archive: COHB’s at least 75 years old, and registrations of foreign birth. If Abercrombie is referring accurately to anything from the Vital Records Office being in the State Archive, what he is referring to must be a registration of foreign birth.
But as always, we have no idea whether what we’re being told has any basis in truth or whether it is being fabricated out of whole cloth. And that’s the problem. That’s why we need an investigation.
I agree with most of what you just said. I just wanted to mention my doubts about the search warrant aspect. After the big deal Abercrombie made about producing the birth records to shame the skeptics, I’d hate to see him get away with a “Never mind!” but it looks like he will.
Let me add one more thing. Abercrombie may, as they claim, be prevented by Hawaiian law from releasing further information about Obama’s birth, but there’s nothing preventing him from asking his friend the President to agree to make it public. So either he didn’t take that obvious step, or Obama said no.