Monthly Archives: March 2014

Misc Images

This is where I’ll dump various images needed in conversations. Right now I can’t post any images at ATS and can only link to thumbnails in my ATS library so to allow people to see stuff clearly I’ll have to put things here.

Here’s an image of a helicopter that is said to be dropping off victims from the Fuddy crash directly at the Queens Medical Center helipad in Honolulu. Note the red lettering on the helipad and the arrows pointing to the H in the middle. Also notice the concrete blocks to the right behind the roof of the hospital leading to what appears to be a taller building directly behind the helicopter, and the hillside with the trees and what looks like power poles:

supposed queens landing

Now let’s look at the Bing Maps image of Queens Medical Center. Notice the placement of the metal structures to understand where the camera would have to be (Mikeultra at ATS circled the area), the open triangle on the roof,  and the 6 windows/stories you can count on the interior of the triangle:

queens hospital bing maps

Here’s the Google image of Queens:

queens hospital google

And here’s a close-up of the landing pad. Note the black lettering and straight (not pointed) lines pointing to the H in the middle. Sigh. Nothing I do in this version of Paint will get rid of the white space surrounding the image, which is keeping this from being able to be larger here.  I don’t know if clicking on the image will make it bigger for you or not.:

queens hospital landing pad bigger

The conversation starts at http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread999641/pg20#pid17647254 , as to whether the building behindthat looks taller in the helicopter photo could actually be a 2-3-story building that’s 3-4 blocks away. Here’s the image that shows that theory (note that there is an inset to show the proposed building; there’s not a border on the inset so it’s a little hard to see that it’s an inset) This is copying as very large on my admin screen so you may have to click on the image to see the whole thing:

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Here are some screenshots from the Nightline video. If anybody has expertise in sorting out all the information contained in these images, please chime in:

 

Plane Image A

Plane Image A

 

Plane image B

Plane image B

Plane Image C

Plane Image C

Plane image D

Plane image D

Plane image E

Plane image E

Plane Image F

Plane Image F

Plane Image G

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Plane Image H

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Plane Image I

Plane Image I

Plane Image J

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Plane Image K

Plane Image K

Plane Image L

Plane Image L

Plane Image M

Plane Image M

Plane Image N

Plane Image N

Plane Image O

Plane Image O

Plane Image P

Plane Image P

Plane Image Q

Plane Image Q

Plane Image R

Plane Image R

Plane Image S

Plane Image S

plane underwater t

Plane Image U

Plane Image U

Plane Image V

Plane Image V

Plane Image X

Plane Image X

 

These are images from “Good Morning America”. Trying to figure out what the “stick”/tube type thing is…

Stick A

Stick A

Stick B

Stick B

Stick C

Stick C

Stick D

Stick D

Stick E Context

Stick E Context

Stick F

Stick F

Stick G

Stick G

stick h

Stick I Context

Stick I Context

Stick J

Stick J

Stick K

Stick K

 

And these are from Nightline:

Stick L

Stick L from Nightline

Stick M from Nightline

Stick M from Nightline

Stick N from Nightline

Stick N from Nightline

Stick O from Nightline

Stick O from Nightline

Stick P from Nightline after skipping 3 frames

Stick P from Nightline after skipping 3 frames

Kawasaki Underwater Images

Here are the full-screen, no-cropping, no-enhancing images of the Kawasaki underwater sequence, with Bandicam timestamp showing (slowed down 16x I think) Looks like I left out 2 images in the youtube – the ones where you can’t see the yellow.

These first ones are before the ones I included in the youtube; they give some context. Turns out that Kawasaki (and probably the 70-ish-year-old guy) apparently wasn’t treading water. He was apparently holding onto a black cushion.

nl 1-05-55-63

nl 1-05-55-63nl 1-05-58-17nl 1-06-00-30nl 1-06-01-37nl 1-06-03-47nl 1-06-05-63nl 1-06-10-33nl 1-06-12-50nl 1-06-12-50 nl 1-06-14-67nl 1-06-14-67 nl 1-06-16-73nl 1-06-18-90nl 1-06-22-10nl 1-06-24-30nl 1-06-26-43nl 1-06-28-60nl 1-06-29-60

This one is ZTnl 1-06-32-73

ZUnl 1-06-33-87

ZVnl 1-06-35-93

ZW:nl 1-06-37-03

 

I skipped these next 2, apparentlynl 1-06-39-20

nl 1-06-40-27

 

ZX:nl 1-06-42-53

ZY:nl 1-06-44-53

 

ZZ:nl 1-06-45-63

ZZA:nl 1-06-47-80

ZZB:nl 1-06-49-83

ZZC:nl 1-06-50-93

I stopped there. The frames to finish out the entire sequence of underwater shots are these last 2.

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MCFD Incident Report

MCFD Incident Report Contact Info Deleted

This is the PDF I was sent by the Maui County Fire Department regarding the Dec 11, 2013 Cessna crash off Kalaupapa, minus the request form which had my contact information.

As you read this there’s something you should know: this has been chopped up and is out of order. The narration actually begins on page 7, with this, and ending with what is at the end of the …:

CA20131211153730HS**Case number FC 130015086 hs been assigned for MFD-F5……….  CG WANTS 10-2 WHEN AIR1 IS HEADI

Everything in that section is supposed to be at the start of the CAD narrative, which as it stands now starts on p. 5 with

NG OUT (?) 20131211155151 HS ADVISED THE BC IS MAKING THAT DETERMINATION

 

What this misplacement hides is that the CAD narrative ends this way:

20131211171942 HS KPAA CMMD…USCG HAS 1 CTITIAL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO FLY IT OAHU OR MAUI 20131211172128 HS USCG – 7 PAXX TOTAL ON SHORE…USCG HAS 1 BOARD CRITAIL.

 

IOW in 2013-12-11, at 17:19:42 (or 5:19:42pm) there were 7 people on shore, with one of them being on board USCG helicopter in critical condition, and they were trying to figure out whether to fly them to Oahu or to Maui.  At that point MDFC’s AIR1 and Maui Medevac helicopter were both still there at Kalaupapa, as were the 2 USCG choppers. Incident commnd on topside Molokai needed to keep Maui Memorial Hospital notified if patients were coming to them. Yet the CAD narrative ends there with a cliff-hanger.

The written narrative – which was written the Sunday after the crash (which was on a Wednesday), was “reported” on Dec 29th, and “reviewed” on Jan 22 (5 days AFTER I requested all records related to this incident, not just the incident report) – says that of those 7 on shore, 2 victims declined transport, the USCG transported 3 to Honolulu, MCFD’s AIR1 transported 2 in stable condition to the staging area on topside Molokai, Maui Medevac transported 1 to the topside staging area, and Maui Medevac transported one dead body to the topside airport. IOW, of the 7 people on shore, the status was reported for NINE.

If the person in critical condition was Fuddy and she died, then when the media reported one fatality at 4:40, that was roughly an HOUR before anybody WAS dead – and the stories of Fuddy dying in the water and being found dead by the rescue swimmers are all false.

If the person in critical condition WASN’T Fuddy then there was at least one extra person in the reports – including one who was in the WORST shape of anybody, who all the official reports happened to leave out.

The numbers were always a mess.

At one point it was said that 2 had swum ashore, another time it was said that 1 had swum ashore and 1 person was still missing in the water,  another place it said a “few” had made it to shore but there were still “several” in the water… And there is one place where it is even acknowledged that the counts were probably being confused because of extra people – people reported as having swum ashore but NOT part of the 9 who were supposed to have been on board:

2013121117042HS US PO PETTY CONFIRMED 3 PICKED OUT THE WATER…5 BY AIR1…NOT SURE ON SHORE WAS PART THE AIRCRAFT

This was right after someone referenced ELEVEN victims:

20131211170620HS PIO JUAN UPDATED – AIR1 PICKED UP 5, CG PICKED UP 5, 1 UNACCOUNTED FOR.

So the extras being seen in the water in Puentes’ video also seem to be showing up in this cut-up incident report.

 

Part Two Images

These are still shots of the images in “What Do You See – Part Two”, at http://youtu.be/usFBn99pJMc

A short tutorial on how to see all this in context for yourself:

1. Download Windows Movie maker for free at  at http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/get-movie-maker-download .

2. Go to the original “Good Morning America” posting  at http://ondemand.abcnews.com/140110_gma_crash_0731_700.mp4  . Right-click on the video screen and choose “Save as” to save the mp4 file on your computer.

3. Go to the original “Nightline” posting  at  http://ondemand.abcnews.com/140111_ntl_mayday_1240_700.mp4  . Right-click on the video screen and choose “Save as” to save the mp4 file on your computer.

4. Open Windows Movie Maker. Click on “Add Videos and Photos” and choose from your computer whichever of those mp4 files you want to see.

5. Click on “Video Tools” and choose .125x for the frame speed. This inserts 7 copies of each frame before the next frame appears, which makes the frames appear to be at 1/8th speed. The spacebar will toggle between pause and play. The back and forward arrows on the Movie Maker screen will advance you one frame forward or back so hitting the arrow 8 times should get you to the next frame. Clicking on the progress bar and dragging it right or left allows you to quickly move to a specific spot in the video.

Now to the images. First, the images that came about 5 seconds (real-time, if I calculated correctly) before the clip I showed in Part One (at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvn8iPE4I-8&feature=youtu.be )  Click on these images to enlarge them. Right-clicking on the images gives you the option of copying or saving the image – which allows you to look at them in a program (such as Microsoft Picture Manager, which I’ve used) that allows you to zoom in, adjust brightness and contrast, etc so you can see more detail. Right-clicking also allows you to copy the URL for the image so that you can post it other places using HTML code, by inserting the URL between the quotation marks and putting the < arrow before and the > arrow after this:

img src=””/

Image A: 15-49-77 gma close

Image A: 15-49-77 gma close

Image B: 15-50-27 closer

Image B: 15-50-27 closer

Image C

Image C

Image D

Image D

Image E

Image E

Image F

Image F

Image G

Image G

Image H

Image H

Image I

Image I

Image J

Image J

Image K

Image K

Image L

Image L

Image M

Image M

Image N

Image N

Image O

Image O

Now the “Nightline” clip that has the dark face in the water:

Image P

Image P

Image Q

Image Q

Image R

Image R

Image S

Image S

Image T

Image T

(Note: The original image for #6 in the “Nightline” series was accidentally left out of the Youtube, but an annotated version was inserted after #8. I’m including both here. Here is #6 where it fits in the sequence)

Image U

Image U

Image X

Image V

Image V

Image W

Image W

Image Y

Image Y

Image Z

Image Z

Now the 2 images that appear in the “Nightline mp4 file” where only Image Y was in my Bandicam recording:

Image ZA

Image ZA

Image ZB

Image ZB

Image ZC

Image ZC

Image ZD

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Image ZE

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Image ZF

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Image ZH

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Image ZI

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Image ZK

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Image ZL

Image ZL

Image  ZM

Image ZM

Image ZN

Image ZN

Image ZO

Image ZO

Image ZP

Image ZP

Image ZQ

Image ZQ

Image ZR

Image ZR

Image ZS

Image ZS

Now after skipping a bunch of frames of Kawsaki and the 70-ish-year-old man treading water:

Image ZT

Image ZT

I’m just going to add a comment here. Notice in ZU that Kawasaki’s arms are both out in front of him. The arm touching his back is not his.

Image ZU

Image ZU

Image ZV

Image ZV

Image ZW

Image ZW

Image ZX

Image ZX

Image ZY

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Image ZZD

Image ZZD

Experiment with Shadows

I did an experiment trying to figure out how the shadows would exactly work, to create this shadow on the top of the plane in Josh Lang’s close-up photo.

lang door shadow

The variables that have to be reconciled are:

1. the angle of the light source

2. the angle of the door

3. the angle of the camera

Specifically, the light has to be at the correct angle to cause the shadow to go toward the lower right corner. The door has to be( a) at an 11:00 angle to the camera and( b) upright to the point that it appears to the camera to be a straight line.

And that position has to result in a shadow that c) makes the  horizontal window in Puentes’ images appear to be vertical, with (d) the shadowed area above and below the window being the same height.

I cut a piece of styrofoam to the same dimensions as the door in Puentes’ image. I attached a wire to the top of it so I could adjust the angles easily while photographing the shadows that resulted.

I cannot replicate that shadow. To get (c) I need to violate (a). To get (d) I need to violate (b).

I don’t see any way that the shadow on Lang’s image could happen in real life. The images from my experiment are in the document below.

 

Experiment with shadows